Autumn Internationals: England team to play New Zealand
Stuart Lancaster has named the England side to play New Zealand on Saturday.
England:
15. Alex Goode
14. Chris Ashton
13. Manusamoa Tuilagi
12. Brad Barritt
11. Mike Brown
10. Owen Farrell
9. Ben Youngs
1. Alex Corbisiero
2. Tom Youngs
3. Dan Cole
4. Joe Launchbury
5. Geoff Parling
6. Tom Wood
7. Chris Robshaw
8. Ben Morgan
Replacements
16. David Paice
17. David Wilson
18. Mako Vunipola
19. Courtney Lawes
20. James Haskell
21. Danny Care
22. Freddie Burns
23. Jonathan Joseph
What do you think? Would you have picked a different team?
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Brown on the wing is a bit diappointing. Implies we intend to kick it to the ABs.
Granted he is not a natural wing, but I do think that Mike Brown has a lot to offer as there is far more to his game than catching and kicking.
It is said that he is now the quickest player at Quins – which is no mean feet.
I would prefer Ashton 11 and Sharples 14, but I am not against Brown being there. Certainly better than Tuilagi out there.
I really think if we can tame them at the breakdown and be competitive in the rucks and mauls, we could get them on the back foot. They’re not really used to teams getting in behind them, so if Farrell can get the ball in the corners and we chase well (possibly why Brown is on the wing), we could cause them some problems.
I’m not saying we’re going to win, be we could surprise everyone.
Why do I get the sinking feeling that Burns and Joseph will end up as un used subs come full time.
SL made a comment about Burns on the bench which seemed to imply that he would only get on if needed. I hope this isn’t going to be the case. It would be a wasted opportunity.
I’m kind of glad we stuck with the team as we nearly beat a good side despite it being tired woodwards lot would’ve loved to get that close n his first 6months. i think eventually burns will be number one and farrell will be the guy that comes on to close out matches we are leading with 10 or 20 to go with his stern defence and calm kicking. unfortunately we arent quite that team yet and we’re getting to the last period a few points behind and therefore need a gamechanger. ie burns. excited to see the pack go toe to toe with nz. while sa are barbaric and brutal the all blacks are just hugely competitive and technical o a different challenge which requires more than a physical front up. esp with our discipline issues around that area in the past few years. pleased with brown he is an attacking player with a good offload. it does look a balanced back 3. look at what corey jane gave the all blacks at the world cup. no negative press for him. if that midfield can look up for support it looks dangerous as the centres will take the attention of two defenders. i hate being so optimistic! its sport anything can happen. i love watching us play the best!
If Burns and Ford are in the EPS come the 6N, I think we may have seen the last of Flood, and Farrell will spend his time in the centre of as injury cover for 10…
Officially the two best fly halves in world rugby playing against each other. Should be a cracking game.
Don’t know what you mean – Michalak isn’t playing and Cruden can’t play against Carter! Your just jealous because Priestland got overlooked! Lol
Haha brilliant! It is laughable that Farrell got nominated. He isn’t first choice for club or country? Strange.
He is first choice for Saracens, and so is Hodgson as the club uses a rotation system. Still don’t know how he got nominated though.
I agree to a certain extent about the fact he is part of a rotation system. But lets be honest, for the biggest games in Saracens season they go with Hodgeson.
“while sa are barbaric and brutal the all blacks are just hugely competitive…” Take it you didn’t see the Wales match then?
Have just seen the cap comparison in the standard. We have 200 odd caps to their 740 with ano 146 on the bench. That is quite a staggering casym of experience. Are we being a bit harsh on Eng for their failings no matter how frustrating it is?
Good point. And some 90 of those caps probably belong to Youngs, Cole and Ashton
That kind of puts recent results into perspective.
This is a young, inexperienced team. And yet they have come close to beating both Australia and South Africa – the second and third best teams in the world.
I think we are being too harsh. These results are not bad at all – merely frustrating as we know both matches could have been won.
The forwards fronted up against SA and showed they could at least match some of the best in the world,
The backs are missing that creative spark but let’s hope they can kick on from here and find it.
(BTW long term, I’d love to see Goode moved back to his natural position of fly half and a back line as follows – Care, Burns/Goode, Billy 36, Tuliagi, Foden and Ashton on the wings, Brown at fb)
I think we are being a bit negative in England, Lancaster is constantly bringing young players through. the pack stood up well agianst the boks on a rainy day which is no small thing.
Yeh we have problems in the backs, we aren’t creative ect ect. But I think we should experiment with Burns and twelvetrees in the 6N, maybe Goode in the line with foden at 15.
I don’t want to experiment against the ABs
slow it doen, keep the ball (best defence) and let farrel kick his goals, I ain’t hopeful lets see what happens.
The problem is that every coach in England brings through 13 youngsters at once and they spend 4 years clammering to get on an even playing field to the rest of the world, fail at the world cup and the coach goes walkies.
Other teams and countries don’t bring through players like this and it puts England on the back foot season after season. But it’s the buzz word that coaches like to use to get the England job because it sounds like you’re going to do something new with the team.
The New Zealanders bring through a few new players a year, they don’t instantly sack off everyone over 25 and build a team that will do the next world cup, but not the one after and then perpetually drop half of them based on 1 iffy game.
They need a better structure for bringing people through because too many languish in the Saxons and aren’t going to make it into the England side again.